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		<title>Comment on A Refreshed View on Community : Clojure Conj 2011 by Runtime Expectations Episode 13 &#8211; Hot Clojure Conj! &#124; CodeBass Radio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Runtime Expectations Episode 13 &#8211; Hot Clojure Conj! &#124; CodeBass Radio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Gutenberg -&gt; Edison -&gt; Jobs by Tomislav Pokrajcic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomislav Pokrajcic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather put Tesla than Edison there ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather put Tesla than Edison there <img src='http://www.uiandtherest.com/ui/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on A Refreshed View on Community : Clojure Conj 2011 by RogerTheGeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>RogerTheGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woot!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Scrum Alliance CSM Certification Legit? by Thang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 20:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of me is saying SCM is for sale.
The other part of me is saying Scrum Alliance is out to make money just like any other organized crime organizations. This one just happens to be &quot;not-for-profit.&quot;
The whole me is saying I should never pay $1400 for a PDF file even though I am a non-certified scrum coach at major enterprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of me is saying SCM is for sale.<br />
The other part of me is saying Scrum Alliance is out to make money just like any other organized crime organizations. This one just happens to be &#8220;not-for-profit.&#8221;<br />
The whole me is saying I should never pay $1400 for a PDF file even though I am a non-certified scrum coach at major enterprises.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Scrum Alliance CSM Certification Legit? by kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with Adrian Pomilio post, any certification required to master water fall or iterative models? why we need pay lots of money for certification which does not have pass criteria? In a practical situation, Agile should be adopted at organizational level for a improved software development. Then Oraganizations has to train, coach their staff and provide internal certifications. This will resolve the purpose. 

AS certified scrum masters growing, the value of these certification impacted</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Adrian Pomilio post, any certification required to master water fall or iterative models? why we need pay lots of money for certification which does not have pass criteria? In a practical situation, Agile should be adopted at organizational level for a improved software development. Then Oraganizations has to train, coach their staff and provide internal certifications. This will resolve the purpose. </p>
<p>AS certified scrum masters growing, the value of these certification impacted</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Scrum Alliance CSM Certification Legit? by Tobias Mayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobias Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Adrian,

 I agree with pretty much everything you say here. The Scrum Alliance is a &quot;non-profit&quot; set up so partners can make &quot;huge profit&quot;. You are correct in that observation. The online test is a sham, its only possible value is to tell an individual where they might focus to improve their knowledge. So indeed, be deeply skeptical of the letters CSM on a resume. I wish more followed your common sense.  I know  a high school student who has the CSM certificate. He has never had a job nor written a line of code. There&#039;s your CSM base line.

However, I do want to differ with you on one point (more an academic one than anything else). To learn Scrum well, to learn it effectively you have to experience it. Much of this experience can come on the job, but when you don&#039;t know what you don&#039;t know it is hard to make the necessary mindshift and practical adjustments needed. You can read books for some of this, for sure, but the experience you may get in a well-facilitated and highly interactive class will be a kick-start, and may offer some profound aha! moments. Is it worth $1,400? Probably not, but the price does vary -- however NOT in alignment with quality, so be careful.

Disclosure: I teach Scrum. I don&#039;t teach CSM any longer, and I am not a Scrum Alliance partner. I believe my workshops offer great value, and the fact that I am still working in this field, without offering certificates, indicates that may be true.

If you change your mind about CSM, or find that it will help your career in some way (yes, sadly it has come to this) I&#039;d be happy to give you a short list of CSM trainers that in my opinion are the best in the business. You should also research the individual trainer (and where a company is listed in place of a real person, forget it). Not all trainers will offer the rich experience I allude to here, so choose wisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Adrian,</p>
<p> I agree with pretty much everything you say here. The Scrum Alliance is a &#8220;non-profit&#8221; set up so partners can make &#8220;huge profit&#8221;. You are correct in that observation. The online test is a sham, its only possible value is to tell an individual where they might focus to improve their knowledge. So indeed, be deeply skeptical of the letters CSM on a resume. I wish more followed your common sense.  I know  a high school student who has the CSM certificate. He has never had a job nor written a line of code. There&#8217;s your CSM base line.</p>
<p>However, I do want to differ with you on one point (more an academic one than anything else). To learn Scrum well, to learn it effectively you have to experience it. Much of this experience can come on the job, but when you don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know it is hard to make the necessary mindshift and practical adjustments needed. You can read books for some of this, for sure, but the experience you may get in a well-facilitated and highly interactive class will be a kick-start, and may offer some profound aha! moments. Is it worth $1,400? Probably not, but the price does vary &#8212; however NOT in alignment with quality, so be careful.</p>
<p>Disclosure: I teach Scrum. I don&#8217;t teach CSM any longer, and I am not a Scrum Alliance partner. I believe my workshops offer great value, and the fact that I am still working in this field, without offering certificates, indicates that may be true.</p>
<p>If you change your mind about CSM, or find that it will help your career in some way (yes, sadly it has come to this) I&#8217;d be happy to give you a short list of CSM trainers that in my opinion are the best in the business. You should also research the individual trainer (and where a company is listed in place of a real person, forget it). Not all trainers will offer the rich experience I allude to here, so choose wisely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Have Made my Choice! by Bill B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian - A colleague of yours floated your name my way and thinks you might be able to help me out. Please get in touch with me (email) as I have a proposition I would like to toss your way.

Thanks!
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian &#8211; A colleague of yours floated your name my way and thinks you might be able to help me out. Please get in touch with me (email) as I have a proposition I would like to toss your way.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Have Made my Choice! by Asif Rashid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif Rashid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. I made the same decision while ago. You go Adrian!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. I made the same decision while ago. You go Adrian!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Accepted to Present at cfObjective() by Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 02:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats! Looking forward to attending this, if I can!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Scrum Alliance CSM Certification Legit? by Dustin Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I totally agree with what you&#039;re saying, upon further examination I feel just a little differently.  If you take a look at the different certifications Agile Alliance offers, the CSM (certified scrum master) is more of an introduction (just give an effort to learn kind of thing).  I do agree that paying a large amount of money for this seems ridiculous; however, they do offer other certifications that do require you to either pass an evaluation or in the case of the CSP (certified scrum professional), demonstrate you&#039;re ability in other ways.  

It seems like after forking out the cash for the class and getting your guaranteed CSM, it&#039;s then up to you to take it further and obtain some of the advanced certifications (which seem to require little in terms of money but a lot in terms of time and effort on your part).  I for example would be interested in getting the CSD (certified scrum developer) certification, which does at least require you to pass an evaluation, thus providing a little more meaning as opposed to the CSM.  

The optimistic part of me sees the Agile Alliance as offering the CSM in the manner they do as an open invitation to learn and take part in scrum, helping to encourage and cultivate excitement about agile.  It&#039;s then up to you to prove yourself and take it to the next step.  

The other part of me is right there with you and says &quot;look here guys, another greedy organization looking to take your hard earned dollar and in return give you a meaningless certification for which the only requirement is having the cash&quot;.

Usually I tend to lead towards the latter but I&#039;m trying to be the optimist :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I totally agree with what you&#8217;re saying, upon further examination I feel just a little differently.  If you take a look at the different certifications Agile Alliance offers, the CSM (certified scrum master) is more of an introduction (just give an effort to learn kind of thing).  I do agree that paying a large amount of money for this seems ridiculous; however, they do offer other certifications that do require you to either pass an evaluation or in the case of the CSP (certified scrum professional), demonstrate you&#8217;re ability in other ways.  </p>
<p>It seems like after forking out the cash for the class and getting your guaranteed CSM, it&#8217;s then up to you to take it further and obtain some of the advanced certifications (which seem to require little in terms of money but a lot in terms of time and effort on your part).  I for example would be interested in getting the CSD (certified scrum developer) certification, which does at least require you to pass an evaluation, thus providing a little more meaning as opposed to the CSM.  </p>
<p>The optimistic part of me sees the Agile Alliance as offering the CSM in the manner they do as an open invitation to learn and take part in scrum, helping to encourage and cultivate excitement about agile.  It&#8217;s then up to you to prove yourself and take it to the next step.  </p>
<p>The other part of me is right there with you and says &#8220;look here guys, another greedy organization looking to take your hard earned dollar and in return give you a meaningless certification for which the only requirement is having the cash&#8221;.</p>
<p>Usually I tend to lead towards the latter but I&#8217;m trying to be the optimist <img src='http://www.uiandtherest.com/ui/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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